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Verranicus · Mar 12, 2007, 04:52 AM // 04:52

I know the whole game is pure speculation at this point, but I'm just looking for opinions. Do you think those with only averagely spec'd PCs will be able to run GW2? I run GW fine, but my PC is less than fantastic, and I'd hate to miss out on account of that.

Knightsaber Sith · Mar 12, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

At any rate, Anet has always tried to make the system req as low as possible so it could even be played on dial-up. I'm sure they'll do the best to keep it that way in the future.

Redfeather1975 · Mar 12, 2007, 05:44 AM // 05:44

I hope they use bump maps at least. I think it's overdue.

sindex · Mar 12, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

At any rate, Anet has always tried to make the system req as low as possible so it could even be played on dial-up. I'm sure they'll do the best to keep it that way in the future.

Here, here. I absolutely agree with you. Considering they might continue to use the streaming software for at least to maintain the free online play; hopefully that will stay. I just upgraded my computer about a week ago and I am not expecting to have GW 2 to carry graphics like Crysis.

That if it’s true about GW 2.

nekopowa · Mar 12, 2007, 06:11 AM // 06:11

I don't really think everyone should suffer because of people who refuse to upgrade their pc or buy decent hardware, its not THAT expensive. Heck, i'm a student with no real income and i still have a pc that keeps up with all new technologies. Putting aside some money and buying good hardware once in a couple of years is manageable. If you refuse then it's noone but your own fault for buying stuff that doesn't work well or doesn't work at all.

GW is a mmorpg, ofcourse it won't have graphics like Crysis.

sindex · Mar 12, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by nekopowa

I don't really think everyone should suffer because of people who refuse to upgrade their pc or buy decent hardware, its not THAT expensive. Heck, i'm a student with no real income and i still have a pc that keeps up with all new technologies. Putting aside some money and buying good hardware once in a couple of years is manageable. If you refuse then it's noone but your own fault for buying stuff that doesn't work well or doesn't work at all.

GW is a mmorpg, ofcourse it won't have graphics like Crysis.

Then go ahead and buy Microsoft Vista now since it is the only one that offers DirectX 10. You’re going to need it eventually anyways and spend over $399.99 (or whatever currency you have). I don’t want to hear the excuse I can’t buy the software because it’s bugged crud either, if you put it that way.

Honestly I feel people get what they can get, at times. Plus this is not the time to spark a war with the statement of, "a ture PC gamer is supposed to upgrade their computer every month."

savage vapor 33 · Mar 12, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I hope they use bump maps at least. I think it's overdue.

LoL definetly. Totally agree with ya on that one.

frojack · Mar 12, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I hope they use bump maps at least. I think it's overdue.

Funny thing is all this new technology (or old in this case) doesn't necessarily make games look better. In fact many games look all the worse for over-reliance on such things. It really boils down to the skill of the artists and the art direction...

ischuros · Mar 12, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34

GW2 will defiantly need a superior machine to trun it on(relative to GW1), and if you are trying to kid yourself, don't be so naive. Dail-up probably wont be supported, as nearly all the markets that Anet is targettin has full broadband support. And in three years (that close!), new technologies may have come along which need better machines to play them on. I don't support the whole upgrade every six months (my machine is around 3 years old, but runs GW just fine). They will certainly incorportae need graphic devices, they do want to market it as a next-gen MMO, or at least I presume they will.

Redfeather1975 · Mar 12, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

My computer is 3 years old as well.
I imagine that because I can run Everquest 2, on the lower performance settings, that I'd be able to run a GW2 if it uses bump maps and all those bells and whistles, on lower performance settings.
So it's quite possible that by then my 6 year old machine could run GW2. That wouldn't be so bad.

Bar Fight · Mar 12, 2007, 09:01 AM // 09:01

I have a 4 year old machine with 5-6 year old parts (built it 4 years ago) Before guild wars 2 (supposedly) comes out there will be so many HUGE changes to our socciety, our computers, our way of life. You cant even imagine the possibilites that are going to become real in 3 years. I mean from 2000-2007 weve expanded incredibly, in 3 more years, windows vista may be obsolete. Your whole desktop maybe unusable becasue every software system doesnt exist. it would be like having windows( original) when everyone is using windows 98!

So i dont imagine that its that far fetched (if they are making GW2) that there building it right now with Super technology, with the thought that in 3 years, the technology they are using will be standard on machines by then. Just think about it, thats how every computer softawre, designer, harware, enginere putting stuff out for many years, so that they can be on the lvl when new stuff advances technology. In 2009 they might come out with a computer that can put you in the world, so instead of pressing buttons your emursed in the entire world.

Its 3 years away at the least, and knowing anet theyll push it till 2010 so that technology will be easy to get to play the game with optimal performance. Stop buggin out if your going to be keeping your system for another # of years, if you want to play the game youll upgrade. If you dont. then you wont. simple as that.

i like to see my words typed out... lol
~Bar Fight!

Meat Axe · Mar 12, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

I think it's a reasonable assumption that you'll need to upgrade. If there is a GW2, it'll be using DirectX 10 or higher (probably higher, since it's 3 years away), and as I understand it, 10 is only compatible with Vista. So you're gonna need a machine that can run Vista at the very least. But we're talking in two or three years. If it were me, I'd be hoping that I'd have gotten a new computer by then.

Put it like this. Over the next few days, the PC Gamer will be shipped to the subscribers, and the article, or parts will be posted on here and probably on Guildwiki. Once we know whether or not GW2 is actually in production, you know you're gonna have to save some money to buy a new computer.

Etta · Mar 12, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30

If there's going to be GW2, then it won't be out till at least 2009-10. So by that time there will be a bunch of DX10 games out and I would be surprise if Anet won't be using DX10 for GW2 as well.

So this will mean a big upgrade for a lot of people, many still using AGP heck! some guy in tech Q&A still using old PCI slot. In the next 2-3 years, PCI-E is a must as so is Window Vista, DX10 graphic card, 2GB memory not to mention a new cpu in some case. Keep in mind this is my personal view on the upgrading subject.

I know it's pricey to be a pc gamer.

peterchen620 · Mar 12, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I hope they use bump maps at least. I think it's overdue.

there are some bump maps on the landscape in Elona. Especially on some rocks, you can notice them quite easily. If you think it is texture-wise, think again... Try running the game on DX8, and compare~

Redfeather1975 · Mar 12, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14

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Originally Posted by peterchen620

there are some bump maps on the landscape in Elona. Especially on some rocks, you can notice them quite easily. If you think it is texture-wise, think again... Try running the game on DX8, and compare~

Liar!

Really? Do you remember where?
Because my friends play with gfx cards that don't support bump maps well at all. If they'd enter an area using bump maps their framerate would drop to 5fps just like that.

Guildmaster Cain · Mar 12, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

UHMMM.... they already said the game will be based to run on the specs of PC's around the year 2009. So that already means u will need Direct X 11 or 12, Triple Core Pentium 7 processor and ATI 125900 GT Pro Vid Card. Probably you will also need a Physics Processor Unit (PPU) and 2 Terabyte of HD space.

But in 2009, all of that will be mediocre build PC's, so quit worrying about the needed specs of a game that isn't on the market for at least 2 years.

Jetdoc · Mar 12, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Etta

If there's going to be GW2, then it won't be out till at least 2009-10. So this will mean a big upgrade for a lot of people, many still using AGP heck! some guy in tech Q&A still using old PCI slot.

Exactly - this is why I've been waiting to upgrade my computer.

If I had to place my bets, I would say that GW2 will represent the forefront in online gaming, which will need the latest technology in order to play it.

Undressed · Mar 12, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

I'd bet on GW2 being a DX10 game and thus requiring you to have rather modern hardware to run it but definitely not the latest. You can't reach the masses when your game requires high-end hardware for full visual excitement, especially in an online-game. GW's advantage is that it doesn't require the latest and even runs on DX8 hardware.

Nevertheless. Why worry about 2 years later? Plenty of time to save for a new comp, is it not?

Atomheart · Mar 12, 2007, 01:49 PM // 13:49

GW2 will be released some time in 2009, right? Nobody knows what 2009's computers will be like. Probably some kWatts of power will not be that much since we will have a windmill or something connected to the PC... who knows...?
But GW never had and I don't think it will ever have extremely high system requirements.

Neriandal Freit · Mar 12, 2007, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Enough talk about GW2. We don't know anything, and there is no need for any of us to speculate and stir the rumor mill even more then the storm already has.

What we do know however is this: In a few days, subscribers of I believe PC Gamer will be getting the first view of the newest Guildwars related item and what will be in it. That is what we know.